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[gallaghers.livejournal.com]

sure! i love the idea :)

[novindalf]

Just noticed that the voting for Challenge 148 hadn't been posted?

[theladymorgan.livejournal.com]

I’m having a little bit or technical difficulty, but it will be up soon! Sorry about the delay!

[magicrubbish.livejournal.com]

I think the voting for challenge 180 is missing , or may be it's not showing up for me ? :D

[sietepecados]

Hi! I'm really sorry for such a late reply. I'll post it right away :)

I will leave, don't worry

[alexia_drake]

Posting this here instead of the challenges post where it started so that both of you sees it.

I did not tell you or the other Mod that you should stop being a Mod, I'm giving you ways to see if you forgot to do something, but you clearly don't care, and if you do, then yes you should quit.

I'm not the only one that tells you when you forget something, you say it's not my job and I know, but you don't seem to care to look if you forgot to do something or not. If you don't want to use the email method, click the tags. It's really not that hard!

Also, the participants often forgets to add the tags of the challenge to their entry, the other mod sometimes even comment on their post, but none of you add the tag, and you don't tell them to do it. I'm the one that does it, because you clearly don't give a fuck about doing your job.

Don't you think it is annoying for us, the participants, that none of you Mods care about doing your job properly? I even have MPs with some of the participants, and we take turns in commenting on the Page-A-Mod post to tell you when you forget to do something, so we are more organized than you.

You both clearly don't want to improve, so I will leave this community, and let you forget about everything from now on. The only thing that makes me sad is that I won't be able to comment on the beautiful icons made by the talented icon makers, including the ones that I consider my friends.

I don't even care if you choose to not include my icons in the polls for challenge 199 and 201, but I'll wait to see if you do, because I want to vote to be fair. I'll leave after, whatever you decide to do.

RE: I will leave, don't worry

[sietepecados]

As a third mod in this community I felt the need to respond to your post. I wanted to say that we're trying to keep this community going, even though it's just the two of us now, and we want to put new content every week for all the people still here who want to post their colorful icon. But on the other hand it's sometimes hard, because outside of lj we have jobs, lifes, families, and other commitments. And yeah, maybe I should keep track of all the tags, that people are not posting, not only in my challenges, but all of them, but I'm just human, and I miss stuff (especially since we've been here for over 200 challenges and rules about tagging your entry never changed). This one actually don't concern you, as it's like you said you're always tagging your entries. But look at it from the other side, we forgot some icons in a voting - stuff like that happens, I do "give a fuck" about a lot of things in this community, but it certainly is not "my job".

so I will leave this community, and let you forget about everything from now on. The only thing that makes me sad is that I won't be able to comment on the beautiful icons made by the talented icon makers, including the ones that I consider my friends.

If this is your decision we will of course respect it - but maybe give us some slack, as we're not perfect. I'll try to keep more attention to the tags from now on. And it would be sad to loose a creative and supportive member of this community like you. But as I said it's your choice, and we respect it. As for the other part of your statement you can always stop participating in the challnges, and just stay to comment on all the great works other poeple do.

- Alex

Re: I will leave, don't worry

[alexia_drake]

Thank you for your answer, I was curious to hear what you had to say about this, that's why I posted here.

I do know that it takes times to take care of a community while having a life, I own 11 communities, and it used to be more. A lot from the Harry Potter Fandoms slowly died when the interests of most fans faded. But tracking the challenges tags and keeping it in my Inbox until I post the voting, and tracking the voting tags until I post the winners is by far the best way to remember to post somthing. That's why I often suggested it. But simply clicking the tags to verify is also very easy.

I know I could stay to comment on the people's icons, but I'm sure I would still verify the tags, and still tell you(I mean both Mods) when you forget to post the voting or the winners.

Good luck, all I ever wanted was to help.

RE: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[sietepecados]

Well, if you ever want to give us another chance, we'll be here.

Thank you.

RE: I will leave, don't worry

[gallaghers.livejournal.com]

i don’t understand why you’re pushing this, but i’ll bite.

theladymorgan asked you nicely to stop messaging her because of the anxiety it caused and instead of acknowledging it and moving on you chose to diminish her feelings and then come here and tell her & sietepecados that they “clearly don’t give a fuck”. iconning is a hobby, challenge comms are a hobby, this is all a hobby. it’s not the friendly reminders that aggravate or stress, it’s the fact that you’ve been micromanaging this community since the beginning. it’s not your community. if we’re late to posting, miss an icon, or don’t reply to a comment fast enough then that is on us, not you. theladymorgan & sietepecados don’t deserve to be berated over something this stupid.

if you choose to leave the community that’s your choice. we’re not going to kick you out and we’re not going to beg you to stay. if you choose not to comment on icon posts that’s also your choice. don’t act as if we’re forcing your arm in this. if you can’t be a part of this community and bite your tongue when it comes to something you don’t like that’s not our problem.

and honestly? you created the icons for these challenges there’s no reason not to include them in voting, but i guess that’s just another way for you to continue this narrative of the mods being big, bad wolves when you’re just trying to help. all that was asked of you was to stop commenting when something was missing or done wrong. there was no need to take it this personal.

Re: I will leave, don't worry

[alexia_drake]

lol I know that this is a hobby, but posting the voting and never posting the winners is ridiculous.

theladymorgan asked you nicely to stop messaging her because of the anxiety it caused and instead of acknowledging it and moving on you chose to diminish her feelings

That's not what I did, I told her again what she could do to remember to post, which one more time, it me trying to HELP, so that I would not have to tell her ever again. And I chose to leave because she clearly won't try any of my suggestions to remember to post, and that whatever I would tell her would keep causing her anxiety. That's why I leave, I'm not trying to make any of you feel guilty.

She posted the polls for challenge 199 and 201, and forgot icons in both polls. I told her, I was not bitching at all, and I even gave her the icon/link of the entry to make it easy for her to fix her posts, but she chose to delete them. Again, all I ever did was HELP her. You keep saying that it's not my job, but someone else would have noticed, most likely the people that made the icons.

RE: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[theladymorgan.livejournal.com]

That's not what I did, I told her again what she could do to remember to post, which one more time, it me trying to HELP, so that I would not have to tell her ever again. And I chose to leave because she clearly won't try any of my suggestions to remember to post, and that whatever I would tell her would keep causing her anxiety. That's why I leave, I'm not trying to make any of you feel guilty.

I was going to ignore this and try to let this go, but okay. That is exactly what you did. I told you that you specifically cause me anxiety with your comments because you have policed me and my co-mods since the beginning. You have constantly commented when we are late when we have done our best and we’re still here even though most of the icon community has been dead until the pandemic brought people back. You have been driving me insane for YEARS with your constant hounding and I have always been nice to you. Instead of acknowledging that you have been bothering me and APOLOGIZING or even being the slightest bit contrite that you have affected my mental health over something as stupid as being behind because I have a goddamn job where lives depend on me and I have been working 55+ hours a week in the middle of a pandemic, you just kept insisting you were right and telling me the same thing you’ve suggested repeatedly that I’ve told you doesn’t work for me. Telling someone to do something your way over and over again and getting pissy when they tell you they've tried and it doesn't work for them (which I have) is not helpful, contrary to what you seem to believe. But you don’t want to actually listen to anything I say, so whatever. Honestly, I don’t need to explain myself to you.

She posted the polls for challenge 199 and 201, and forgot icons in both polls. I told her, I was not bitching at all, and I even gave her the icon/link of the entry to make it easy for her to fix her posts, but she chose to delete them. Again, all I ever did was HELP her. You keep saying that it's not my job, but someone else would have noticed, most likely the people that made the icons.

And for the record, I set those posts on maintainer only so that I could fix and repost them later with all of the icons in the correct order. The posts were/will be deleted only once I’ve fixed them to include everyone’s icons. I am only human and I try to do the right thing, but sometimes I mess up and miss things. I’m sure someone else would have noticed and I would have apologized like I did to kitamikeita earlier today and reposted the voting. The problem here is your micromanaging and your complete and utter lack of empathy. I never claimed to be perfect. I just asked for a little understanding. I’m sorry that you feel the need to make yourself into the victim here. You have been horribly rude to me in the last 24 hours when all I did was ask you to stop harassing me. I’m going to include your icons in the voting posts because that’s the right thing to do, since you’ve heavily implied that you expect me not to. I’m not that petty.

But for the record, you leaving doesn't make me feel guilty. At all. I tried being nice and I don't give a shit if you stay or if you go as long as you're freaking civil and stop trying to play the victim when you are the one who flew off the handle and blew this way out of proportion. I wish you nothing but the best in the future. Bye, Felicia.

Re: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[alexia_drake]

In the past years, when I was telling you that you haven't posted the winners after 3, 4 or even 5 months, it was not "posting late because you were busy", you had forgotton. I'm sorry if it was too soon for challenge 199, if you knew about it but did not had the time, I just thought for a change that I would say it after only about a month, instead of waiting 3 months or more as usual.

This is litterally the first time that you talk about having anxiety. All you ever did in the past years was to thank me for pointing out what you forgot to post. And if I was not saying it, it was someone else. So if you had a problem with that before, you could have said so years ago. I really don't see why it is such a big deal when someone tells you that you forgot something. If I'd see you forget your purse in a restaurant, and I told you about it, it would cause you anxiety as well? It makes no sense to me that you could get anxiety for this... I'm sorry, I don't get it. No need to explain, I won't cause you anxiety anymore.

And no, I was not at all trying to make anyone feel guilty for leaving, and I'm sure you won't. I will vote in the polls for challenges 199 and 201 before I leave, and I won't help you anymore, so problem solved.

RE: Re: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[theladymorgan.livejournal.com]

That’s because I’m not obligated to talk about my mental health with anyone if I don’t want to. :) Many people on LJ know that I have anxiety. You clearly missed the Social Justice Wanker fiasco from a few years ago where I said as much on a very public comm. You’re coming off just as insensitive and belittling as the SJW troll, to be honest. Since you clearly don’t understand anxiety based on your analogy that is completely stripped of all context, perhaps you should consider doing some research into how generalized and social anxiety works so you don’t come off like an insensitive, asinine jerk like you did today. And maybe grow some empathy. Literally all you had to do was drop it or be contrite instead of getting on your high horse and trying backseat moderate this comm. If you wanted to be a mod here, all you had to do was ask back when things were first getting going. No kindly go help micromanage someone else.

Re: Re: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[alexia_drake]

I never wanted to be a Mod, I was really just trying to help. I will read about anxiety, because I never thought it could be that serious. I'm sure you will be more at peace with me gone.

Re: Re: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[theladymorgan.livejournal.com]

Anxiety can be crippling. There are people who cannot function in their day to day lives because of it. I have a client who called three times or more a day every day from last Saturday to this Wednesday looking for a test result because she was so anxious about it that it was all she could think about. I have insomnia because my anxiety keeps me awake because I can’t shut my brain off. There are completely normal social interactions that make me panic for completely illogical reasons. I overthink and stew on things like whether or not people who I have known for years actually like me or of they’re just hanging out with me out of pity. Anxiety isn’t rational and it’s not some silly little thing like someone being worried about something. It’s not something that should be brushed off. Anxiety and depression are very common. Most of my friends have one or the other—some worse than others. Mental health is a big deal and more people need to be empathetic about it. I hope this can be a learning experience for you.

Like I said before: I truly wish you nothing but the best. You are welcome to come back any time as long as you don’t micromanage the moderators and you respect boundaries that people try to set. We are trying to do the best we can and we want to keep this comm and this community alive.

Re: Re: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[alexia_drake]

I hope this can be a learning experience for you.

I guess it already is. I really had no idea that it could be that serious, and for something not important as just this hobby. Thank you for telling me.

we want to keep this comm and this community alive

That's exactly why I was doing this, because I noticed that some members was leaving when the winners was not posted for 3-5 months, and I was worried that this comm would stop being active for lack of entries. But you all did very well this year to post the voting and the winners, it never took that long. I don't remember when was the last time before 199, and I don't know why I told you that soon. I'm sorry for causing you anxiety, I had no idea.

Re: Re: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[theladymorgan.livejournal.com]

Like I said at the beginning of this - I knew you were trying to help. Your heart was in the right place. That’s why I didn’t say anything for as long as I did. I just couldn’t take the anxiety anymore and had to say something. Thank you for the apology. I appreciate it.

RE: Re: I will leave, don't worry

[gallaghers.livejournal.com]

and, again, that's on us. not you.

do i have to copy & paste your comments for you?

she told you that these kinds of comments were causing anxiety for her, you should've either acknowledged her feelings and dropped the subject or just not respond. instead you dismissed her feelings and told her what to do (by basically repeating previous comments, mind you). the issue isn't being reminded/notified when something is missing or done wrong, the issue is you micromanaging the community. you can comment with a simple "hey! I think X is missing" and that's fine, but you have a history of telling us how to mod and your comments can be condescending. theladymorgan wasn't reacting to that particular comment but all of your comments, this just happened to be the tipping point.

and not only did you comment back telling her how to mod after she had just told you those comments make her anxious, but then you came here to leave a nasty comment which was way out of line. do you not see how that disregards her feelings?

also, telling us that you're leaving the community and as a result "won't be able to comment on the beautiful icons made by the talented icon makers, including the ones that I consider my friends" is 100% trying to guilt the mods. no one is asking you to leave and no one is saying that you can't participate, so what reason is there to say something like this if it's not to make them feel bad.

it may not be fun for participants when something goes wrong but do you think it's fun for mods to receive such rude comments over something as trivial as icons.